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词条 Potteries derby
释义

  1. Background

  2. History

  3. Game list

  4. Statistics

  5. Honours

  6. Crossing the divide

     Players who have played for both clubs  Managers who worked at both clubs 

  7. References

  8. External links

{{Use dmy dates|date=September 2013}}{{Use British English|date=September 2013}}{{infobox football derby
| name = Potteries derby
| other names =
| image =
| caption =
| city or region = Stoke-on-Trent
| first contested = Stoke 1–0 Burslem Port Vale
1887–88 FA Cup
2 December 1882[1]
| teams involved = Port Vale vs. Stoke City
| most wins = Stoke City (101)[1]
| most player appearances = Tom Holford (28)[1]
| mostrecent = Stoke City 0–1 Port Vale
2001–02 Second Division
10 February 2002
| total = 185
| series = Port Vale: 44
Drawn: 40
Stoke: 101
| largestvictory = Stoke 4–0 Port Vale
1930–31 Second Division
(26 September 1931)
}}

The Potteries derby is the football local derby in Stoke-on-Trent between Port Vale and Stoke City. The fans of each club both consider the other to be their main rivals;[1] this has led to a heated atmosphere at these matches. The two teams have met a total of 185 times, consisting of: 44 English Football League, 6 FA Cup, 62 friendlies, and 73 other (mostly local) cup games.[2]

Stoke-on-Trent is the least populous city to have two Football League clubs (the next smallest is Nottingham). Leeds, Leicester, Coventry, Hull, Bradford, and Cardiff are all larger cities that contain just one league club.[3]

Background

Both clubs come from Stoke-on-Trent and are the only clubs from the city to have played in the football league. Port Vale are Burslem based and Stoke City traditionally are based in Stoke-upon-Trent. The city of Stoke-on-Trent was incorporated in 1910 (city status granted in 1925), therefore before this time the two clubs were based in separate towns and were local rivals rather than rivals within the same city. Despite this however, the Valiants did use The Old Recreation Ground as their home stadium, which was located in Hanley.

Both clubs had strong links to the local pottery industry, Port Vale's unique name being based on the Trent and Mersey Canal and with City's nickname being The Potters.

Port Vale tends to get support from the North of the city, notably Tunstall and Burslem. Stoke therefore tend to enjoy greater support in the remaining parts of the city.

History

The two clubs have long league histories, Stoke City were founded in 1863 [4] and Port Vale were probably formed in 1876.[5] In the early 20th century, both clubs spent time out of the Football League structure: from 1907 (for Vale) and 1908 (for Stoke) until 1919 – both had resigned due to financial troubles. Stoke were founder members of the football league in 1888 and Port Vale were founder members of both the Second Division in 1892 and the Fourth Division in 1958. City have tended to be the more successful club over the years, the most valued trophy going to Stoke in 1972 in the form of the League Cup. Although Vale did reach the semi-finals of the FA Cup in 1954, Stoke bettered this with a second-place finish in 2011. Stoke have also tended to play in higher tiers of the football league throughout the clubs history, although since 1919 the two clubs have found themselves in the same league for 22 seasons. Vale have had only five seasons playing at a higher level than City, and never in the top flight. Whilst competing in the same division, Vale have finished above Stoke on seven occasions.[6] In every other year of the two club's Football League history Stoke have therefore have finished above Vale.

The first derby game was played at Westport Meadows on 2 December 1882, in the Second Round of the Staffordshire Senior Cup.[2] Vale were complete unknowns, and so pulled off a surprise by managing a 1–1 with their more established rivals-to-be.[2] No details of the match were recorded, though The Staffordshire Sentinel did mention the match along with the comment that it was "a spirited game".[2] Stoke won the replay 5–1 at the Victoria Ground seven days later, with George Shutt bagging four of the goals.[2] It took Vale seventeen attempts to register their first victory over Stoke, which they finally did in a friendly on 29 March 1890, winning 2–1.[2]

The biggest attendance came on 6 January 1951, as a crowd of 49,500 packed into the Victoria Ground to witness the teams draw in an FA Cup First Round encounter. Three years later some 46,777 turned up at the ground when the pair met in the league. The biggest crowd for an encounter Vale Park came on 25 April 1955, when a crowd of 41,674 witnessed a Stoke victory.[2]

Though the two clubs have been main rivals since as early as the 1880s, they have supported each other in times of need. Before regaining their Football League status in the early 20th century, the two clubs had a pact that meant Vale would not bid for membership, leaving Stoke more likely to succeed in their bid; Stoke would then support Vale in any future bids they made.[7] During times of deep financial crisis at the Vale, Stoke played fund-raising matches with the Vale in order to try and prevent their rivals from going into liquidation.[7] In turn, Vale allowed Stoke to play a home game at Vale Park when a freak gale in January 1976 caused severe damage to the Victoria Ground.[7]

Game list

The most recent game resulted in a 1–0 away win for Port Vale, Stoke City's last win over Vale being seven derbies ago.

This list shows all competitive senior matches in the English Football League, the FA Cup, League Cup, and League Trophy. Matches from wartime competitions, friendlies, Staffordshire Senior Cup, and other minor cup competitions are not included.

Note that the league system was re-organized in 1992 with the creation of the Premier League and in 2004 with the league re-branding.

Date Competition Stadium ScorePort Vale ScorersStoke City Scorers Att.
Stoke City promoted to First Division 2001–02
10 February 2002 Second Division Britannia Stadium
0–1
Cummins[8] 23,019
21 October 2001 Second Division Vale Park1–1 McPhee Iwelumo[9] 10,344
5 March 2001 LDV Trophy Britannia Stadium
1–2
Cummins, Bridge-Wilkinson Mohan[10] 11,323
17 February 2001 Second Division Britannia Stadium1–1 Brammer O'Connor[11] 22,133
17 September 2000 Second Division Vale Park1–1 Bridge-Wilkinson Lightbourne[12] 8,948
Port Vale relegated to Second Division 1999–2000
Stoke City relegated to Second Division 1997–98
1 March 1998 First Division Vale Park0–0 [13] 13,853
12 October 1997 First Division Britannia Stadium
2–1
Naylor Forsyth, Keen[14] 20,125
20 April 1997 First DivisionVictoria Ground
2–0
Sheron (2)[15] 16,426
13 October 1996 First Division Vale Park1–1 Mills Keen[16] 14,396
12 March 1996 First Division Vale Park
1–0
Bogie[17] 16,737
27 August 1995 First DivisionVictoria Ground
0–1
Bogie[18] 14,283
22 April 1995 First DivisionVictoria Ground
0–1
Foyle[19] 20,429
14 March 1995 First Division Vale Park1–1 Naylor Sandford[20] 19,510
Port Vale promoted to First Division 1993–1994
Stoke City promoted to First Division 1992–1993
31 March 1993 Second Division Vale Park
0–2
Stein, Gleghorn 20,373
3 March 1993 Autoglass TrophyVictoria Ground
0–1
Van der Laan 22,254
24 November 1992 FA Cup First Round Replay Vale Park
3–1
Foyle (2), Porter Sandford 19,810
16 November 1992 FA Cup First RoundVictoria Ground0–0 24,490
24 October 1992 Second DivisionVictoria Ground
2–1
Kerr Cranson, Stein 24,334
Port Vale relegated to Third Division 1991–92
Stoke City relegated to Third Division 1989–90
3 February 1990 Second Division Vale Park0–0 22,075
23 September 1989 Second DivisionVictoria Ground1–1 Earle Palin 27,004
Port Vale promoted to Second Division 1988–89
Port Vale relegated to Third Division 1956–57
29 April 1957 Second Division Vale Park2–2 Cunliffe, Steele Graver, King 22,395
10 October 1956 Second DivisionVictoria Ground
3–1
Smith Coleman (2), Kelly 39,446
31 March 1956 Second DivisionVictoria Ground1–1 Griffiths Oscroft 37,928
8 October 1955 Second Division Vale Park
1–0
Done 37,261
25 April 1955 Second Division Vale Park
0–1
Bowyer 41,674
4 September 1954 Second DivisionVictoria Ground0–0 46,777
Port Vale promoted to Second Division 1953–54
8 January 1951 FA Cup First Round ReplayVictoria Ground
1–0
Bowyer 40,977
6 January 1951 FA Cup First RoundVictoria Ground2–2 Bennett, Pinchbeck Mullard (2) 49,500
Stoke City promoted to First Division 1932–33
4 March 1933 Second Division The Old Recreation Ground
1–3
McGrath Johnson, Ware, Matthews 19,625
22 October 1932 Second DivisionVictoria Ground
1–0
Johnson 29,296
6 February 1932 Second Division The Old Recreation Ground
3–0
Marshall (2), Henshall 21,089
26 September 1931 Second DivisionVictoria Ground
4–0
Sale, Bussey (3) 28,292
18 April 1931 Second Division The Old Recreation Ground0–0 13,403
13 December 1930 Second DivisionVictoria Ground
1–0
Robertson 26,609
Port Vale promoted to Second Division 1929–30
Port Vale relegated to Third Division North 1928–29
26 January 1929 Second Division The Old Recreation Ground
1–2
Mandley Shirley (2) 18,869
15 September 1928 Second DivisionVictoria Ground
2–1
Griffiths Davies, Bussey 35,288
17 March 1928 Second Division The Old Recreation Ground0–0 21,071
5 November 1927 Second DivisionVictoria Ground
0–2
Anstiss, Kirkham 31,493
Stoke City promoted to Second Division 1926–27
Stoke City relegated to Third Division North 1925–26
7 September 1925 Second DivisionVictoria Ground
0–3
Kirkham (3) 21,869
31 August 1925 Second Division The Old Recreation Ground
3–0
Kirkham (2 [1 pen]), Strange 19,997
24 January 1925 Second Division The Old Recreation Ground
2–0
Kirkham, Tempest 17,936
20 September 1924 Second DivisionVictoria Ground
0–1
Connelly 22,747
13 October 1923 Second Division The Old Recreation Ground
2–4
Page, Butler J Broad (2), Eyres (2) 16,800
6 October 1923 Second DivisionVictoria Ground
1–0
Clarke 21,685
Stoke relegated to Second Division 1922–23
Stoke promoted to First Division 1921–22
7 January 1922FA Cup First Round The Old Recreation Ground
2–4
Page, Brough Watkin (3), Tempest 14,471
1 October 1921 Second Division The Old Recreation Ground
0–1
J Broad 20,000
24 September 1921 Second DivisionVictoria Ground0–0 30,000
2 October 1920 Second DivisionVictoria Ground
0–1
Blood 26,500
25 September 1920 Second Division The Old Recreation Ground
2–1
Page, Briscoe McColl 20,000
13 March 1920 Second DivisionVictoria Ground0–0 27,000
6 March 1920 Second Division The Old Recreation Ground
0–3
Whittingham, Brown, Watkin 22,697
Port Vale and Stoke City re-admitted to the Football League 1919–20
15 October 1887FA Cup First RoundVictoria Ground
1–0
Lawton

Statistics

As of 12 January 2009
ClubPWDLFAGD
Football League
Port Vale441315164145−4
Stoke City441615134541+4
FA Cup
Port Vale612379−2
Stoke City632197+2
Football League Trophy
Port Vale220031+2
Stoke City200213−2
Friendlies & minor cups[2]
Port Vale133292382156298−142
Stoke City133822329298156+142
Totals
Port Vale 185 44 40 101 207 353 −146
Stoke City 185 101 40 44 353 207 +146

Honours

These are the major footballing honours of Port Vale and Stoke City.

CompetitionPort ValeStoke City
Second Division / Football League Championship (2nd tier) 0 2
Third Division / Third Division North / League One (3rd tier) 2 2
Fourth Division / League Two (4th tier) 1 0
Football League Cup 0 1
Football League Trophy 2 2
Total 5 7

Crossing the divide

Players who have played for both clubs

The player with the most appearances in derby games is Tom Holford, who played nine times in Stoke colours and nineteen times in Vale colours between 1899 and 1922. Dickie Smith played 24 appearances in Stoke colours, whilst Billy Briscoe turned out 22 times for the Valiants. The player with most appearances in the derby following World War II is John McCue, who played seventeen times for the Potters, followed by Vale's Roy Sproson with fifteen derby appearances.[2]

In terms of goals scored the record-holder is Bob Whittingham, who knocked thirteen goals in for Stoke between 1917 and 1920, though only one of these came in a Football League encounter. The most successful scorer in Vale colours has been Wilf Kirkham with seven goals, though he also scored once whilst playing on Stoke's side – all Kirkham's goals came in the English Football League.[2]

Players in bold transferred directly between the clubs, or were released by one and then signed for the other. John Lumsdon is the last player to have joined Port Vale on loan from Stoke City, having made the move in March 1978.[21]

Both the Potteries clubs also share a rivalry with Crewe Alexandra. Players highlighted in pink have turned out for all three clubs.

PlayerPort Vale careerStoke City career
SpanLeague
Appearances
League
Goals
SpanLeague
Appearances
League
Goals
Ron Andrew1964–1965811957–19641151
Len Armitage1932–19341121924–193220019
Bill Asprey1967–19683101953–196630423
Tom Baddeley1893–1896640191090
Frank Baker1935–1936001936–195016232
Lewis Ballham1888–18901661891–1892185
George Bateman1882–1886
1886–1890
1801886–1887
1891–1892
50
Jason Beckford1991511994–199540
Harry Benson1908–19114301901–1907870
Bill Bentley1977–19809501964–1968481
Brian Bithell1977201976–1977170
Alan Bloor1978–1979611961–197738817
Albert Boardman1894–1895001895–189740
Lucien Boullemier1897–1902
1905
1536189670
John Bowman1899001899–190040
Arthur Box1904–19075011907–1909330
William Bradbury1903–19071201910–1911280
Dave Brammer1999–2001
2008–2009
8532004–20071052
Arthur Bridgett1923–1924147190270
Ian Brightwell2002–2004370200240
Davy Brodie1897001889–18971702
Joe Brough1906–1907
1909–1910
1913–1922
15969190710
Adrian Capes1900–1905
1907–1911
197751905–1907172
Mark Chamberlain1979–198296181982–198511117
Neville Chamberlain1978–1982141321982–198470
Tommy Clare1884
1897
1898–1901
3901884–18971984
Albert Cook1900–1906
1907
1909–1911
5871906121
William Cope1904–19077311907–1908250
Harry Cotton1901–190512401905–1908221
Tom Coxon1902–1903
1906–1907
42131903–1904
1907
346
Arthur Cumberlidge1937–1946811193600
Harry Davies1938–19394441922–1929
1932–1937
38892
Carl Dickinson2013–201612732004–2011510
Tony Dinning2005–2006422200250
Alan Dodd1986–1987201969–19823563
Billy Draycott1890–1891211891–189420
Archie Dyke1913–1914
1919
2121909–1912
1914
413
Billy Eardley1894–1895
1895–1896
1771896101
Francis Eardley1910–191162190932
Wayne Ebanks1985–19873901984100
Ted Evans1896–189938141891–18955518
Arthur Fielding1910–1911451908–190930
John Flowers1971–19723401963–196680
Peter Ford1959–196310451956–1959140
Jimmy Greenhoff1981–19834851969–197627476
Peter Griffiths1984–19863641983–1984605
Steve Guppy1994–199710512200440
Charles Hallam1922–1923101924–1927312
Mark Harrison1980–19827001982–198370
Arthur Hartshorne1902–19032801903–1905530
Billy Heames1897–1904208221883–1887162
Geoff Hickson19681701959–1961110
Ted Holdcroft1901–19031611903–19054311
Tom Holford1919–19246231898–190824830
Vic Horrocks1905–1907
1911–1912
3721904
1908–1911
198
Sam Howshall1903–190520190812
Arthur Jepson1938–19464101946–1948280
Tony Kelly1994411986–1987364
Wilf Kirkham1923–1929
1932–1933
2601531929–19325130
Tony Lacey1970–197520191967–196940
George Lawton1886001885–1889131
Billy Leech1899–19002611900–1901462
Terry Lees1975–19764121970–1975240
Harry Leese1913–19193741907
1909–1913
10911
Aaron Lockett1914–1915
1916–1917
1919–1920
27919182111
John Lumsdon1978501975–1978280
Neil MacKenzie2008–2009201996–1999411
Ted McDonald1894–1896
1897–1899
105101896–189720
Bob McSkimming1889–1891001888–1889226
Arden Maddison1924–1927531192410
Jack Maddock1923–1931173101919–1921234
Paul Maguire1985–1988115221980–198410724
Alan Martin1941–1951169281951–195510466
Harry Mellor1896001897–1900293
Lee Mills1995–1998109352003111
Bob Milarvie1889001888–1889155
Ernie Millward1907–1908001908–19106924
Ian Moores1988001974–19765014
Jackie Mudie1963–19675491961–19638932
Albert Mullard1951–1956163221950–1951213
Ernest Mullineux1900–190411311907–19141730
Jimmy O'Neill1965–19664201960–19641300
Harry Oscroft1959–196147121949–1959349106
Gareth Owen2008–2009
2009–2013
11422001–200550
Syd Owen1907
1908
301906
1907
64
Wally Owen1911–191210191000
Louis Page1932–19331821919–1922211
Martin Paterson20161622005–2007151
Jack Peart1922701909–19124438
Syd Peppitt1950–19511131936–19509429
Edward Proctor1896–18971331895–189632
Bob Ramsay1886–1888
1893–1894
1601888–1890435
Leigh Richmond Roose1910001901–1904
1905–1907
1470
Vic Rouse1926–19299501922–1926922
Arthur Rowley1902–19035741896–1899570
Bill Rowley1884–1886001887–18961180
Harry Sellars1937–1938001923–193536918
Kevin Sheldon1982501975–1981150
George Shutt1891–1893101885–1889211
Barry Siddall1982–19848101984–1986200
Eric Skeels1976–1977511959–19765077
Sam Spencer1929–1930001921–192210
Freddie Steele1951–195325121933–1949224140
James Swarbrick1911–19122231910–191130
Harry Taylor1912001909–1910104
Billy Tempest1924–19264531912–192420229
Billy Twemlow1921–19232101916–1921362
Steve Waddington1982–1983101976–1979525
Tommy Ward1936–1938
1939
50221938–193950
Cyril Watkin1944001944–1952860
Frank Watkin1929–1931139192650
Frank Whitehouse1899–19001911900–19048823
Bob Whittingham1919201904
1919–1920
188
Louis Williams1912–1913401907–1908331
Ron Wilson1963–197026451959–1964110
Alf Wood1892–189563181895–190111810
John Woodward1973–197588301964–1967111
Davide Xausa1998001997–199810

Managers who worked at both clubs

Those in bold were actually full-time managers at both clubs.

{{Updated|28 January 2013.}}
ManagerPort Vale careerStoke City career
SpanSpan
Micky Adams2009–2010
2011–2014
1994
Bill Asprey1967–19681984–1985
Alan Bloor19791961–1977
Tom Holford1919–1924
1932–1935
1898–1908
Jackie Mudie1965–19671961–1963
Bill Rowley1884–18861886–1898
John Rudge1983–19991999–2013
Stanley Matthews1967–19681932–1947
1961–1965
Joe Schofield1924–19301915–1919
Freddie Steele1951–1957
1962–1965
1933–1949

References

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2. ^10 11 12 {{cite book|last=Kent|first=Jeff|title=The Potteries Derbies|publisher=Witan Books|date=November 1998|isbn=0-9529152-3-5}}
3. ^{{cite web|title=Towns with Teams in the Premiership & Football League 2011–12|url=http://www.lovemytown.co.uk/FootballTeams/FootballTeamsTable5.asp|work=lovemytown.co.uk|accessdate=17 April 2012}}
4. ^A Potter's Tale: The Story of Stoke City, Wade Martin, {{ISBN|0-8602340-7-X}}, 1988
5. ^The Valiants' Years: The Story Of Port Vale, pages 4–13, Jeff Kent, {{ISBN|0-9508981-4-7}}, 1990, Witan Books; The Port Vale Record 1879–1993, page 4, Jeff Kent, {{ISBN|0-9508981-9-8}}, 1993, Witan Books; The Potteries Derbies, page 4, Jeff Kent, {{ISBN|0-9529152-3-5}}, 1998, Witan Books; and What If There Had Been No Port In The Vale? Startling Port Vale Stories, pages 18–33, Jeff Kent, {{ISBN|978-0-9529152-8-7}}, 2011, Witan Books.
6. ^{{cite book|last=Sherwin|first=Phil|title=The Port Vale Miscellany|publisher=The History Press|location=Brimscombe Port|year=2010|pages=53|isbn=978-0-7524-5777-2}}
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9. ^{{cite news|url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_div_2/1608735.stm|title=Port Vale 1–1 Port Vale|work=BBC Sport|accessdate=2009-01-12 | date=21 October 2001}}
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13. ^{{cite web|url=http://www.soccerbase.com/results3.sd?gameid=249169|title=Port Vale 0 – 0 Stoke City|work=Soccerbase|accessdate=2009-01-12}}
14. ^{{cite web|url=http://www.soccerbase.com/results3.sd?gameid=245430|title=Stoke City 2 – 1 Port Vale|work=Soccerbase|accessdate=2009-01-12}}
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16. ^{{cite web|url=http://www.soccerbase.com/results3.sd?gameid=240393|title=Port Vale 1 – 1 Stoke City|work=Soccerbase|accessdate=2009-01-12}}
17. ^{{cite web|url=http://www.soccerbase.com/results3.sd?gameid=225836|title=Port Vale 1 – 1 Stoke City|work=Soccerbase|accessdate=2009-01-12}}
18. ^{{cite web|url=http://www.soccerbase.com/results3.sd?gameid=222818|title=Stoke City 0 – 1 Port Vale|work=Soccerbase|accessdate=2009-01-12}}
19. ^{{cite web|url=http://www.soccerbase.com/results3.sd?gameid=221995|title=Stoke City 0 – 1 Port Vale|work=Soccerbase|accessdate=2009-01-12}}
20. ^{{cite web|url=http://www.soccerbase.com/results3.sd?gameid=221627|title=Port Vale 1 – 1 Stoke City|work=Soccerbase|accessdate=2009-01-12}}
21. ^{{cite news|last1=Baggaley|first1=Mike|title=Robbie Earle: lack of Port Vale-Stoke deals shows fierce rivalry|url=http://www.stokesentinel.co.uk/robbie-earle-lack-of-port-vale-stoke-deals-shows-potteries-rivalry/story-30175682-detail/story.html|accessdate=2 March 2017|work=Stoke Sentinel|date=2 March 2017|language=en}}

External links

  • Head to Head stats at Soccerbase
  • Profile on footballderbies.com
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